Differential ratio for 1975 ranchero

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  1. pbbb8318

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    What would be the most common ratio for a 1975 with a 351 engine?
     
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    Thanks bahumbug
     
  4. handy_andy_cv64

    handy_andy_cv64 In Maximum Overdrive SILVER MEMBER

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    The three common ratios were based on the fact the rigs only had automatics, and zero overdrive's. My '79 GT came with a whopping 2.47 ratio. I have plans to swap in an AOD, so I have a Bronco 3.50 R&P to swap into the pumpkin when that happens.
     
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    That some great info. My goal is to put something together to get the best possible mileage on the road. Mine has a 351, and right now I’m getting a solid 17.7 mpg running about 63 mph. I’m hoping that with some tuning, a tonneau cover and possibly adding overdrive I can get it over 25.
     
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    Overdrive only works within a narrow band on engines. You have to keep the engine within about 1800-2200 RPM at sixty MPH to get the highest possible MPG, but remember...a brick only flies with enough power behind it. At that 17.7 MPG/63 MPH, what is your 351 V8 turning at?

    Another thing to consider: Cruise-o-Matic transmissions do not have a 'lock-up' converter. There's a bit of slippage in the torque converters of those earlier transmissions, and was not addressed until the Automatic Overdrive design that put a torque converter clutch inside, which, when engaged, gives you a 1:1 coupling, hopefully with no slippage. Look at the Panther cars of 1979 and up, the LTD/Crown Vic, Grand Marquis and Mark VI/Town Car, and see what they do to get 20+ MPG from a 302 or 351W, carbed vs. fuel injected, etc.
     
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    Don’t know. Ranchero is in getting a facelift. I’ll let you know when I get it home
     
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    Okay. I should ask, does your cluster have a tach, and if not, would you have something, like a Sears engine analyzer, that could sub in, give engine RPM's?
     
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    Ranchero does not have a tach, but I have a small electronic one I can connect to find out
     
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    Cool. My Sears unit's about the size of a '50s tabletop radio. I need to get one that's smaller.
     
  11. Dan the ranchero man

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    Back in the day when the 74 had the 351W it came with a 3.00 gear.
     
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    Interesting, as my '74 Squire with the 351C had the 2.73 ratio. I wonder if that was because the 351W was an IMCO engine, whereas the 351C was not continuing past '74, so it was not given the IMCO treatment.
     
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    My son's 76 that was originally a 351M with an FMX has 2.75 in it.
     
  14. Burnout

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    That's mostly true, but the AOD doesn't have a lockup clutch. It has a unique shaft that connects the torque converter housing to the direct clutch so that when the direct clutch applies (in 3rd & 4th) the crank is connected directly to the planetary gears eliminating the torque converter. That means no possible slippage.
    Giving, as you correctly stated, 1:1 coupling thru the converter.
    It's a neat system in that it doesn't wear out (like a clutch) and it doesn't let the converter try to multiply the torque in overdrive (which creates a lot of unnecessary heat). If you drive a car with an AOD you can feel this when the 2-3 shift happens, there is a funny bump because there is no longer a cushion provided by the fluid drive. Like I said, it's unique to the AOD. I don't know of any other manufacturer that did this. There are no electronics or computer involved, and it won't wear out. This is only on the AOD. The AOD-E and 4R70W both have the typical lockup clutch in the converter.
     
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    That's interesting, I'll have to look that up again, because my understanding is that the T/C does have a clutch, and the shaft hydromechanically locks the converter, whereas the electronic units only use hydraulics controlled by a solenoid. But I will do a bit of research. Who knows, maybe we're both right?
     

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