5.9 12 valve ZF5spd swap

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  1. handy_andy_cv64

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    Good numbers to know. Perhaps with a set of decent big block springs, you won't need modifications front or rear. I wasn't sure what the weights of the 429 and 460 engines were, but if a 429CJ is 1100 pounds, that should be smack dab in the middle of the proverbial ballpark. When I see my friend Kyle, I'll ask him what he did for the throttle on his F100.
     
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    pretty much minus the 12qts of oil in her gullet.
     
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    Thanks I will keep that in mind. I will have to see what the travel looks like once I get everything all put on it like I want, them hoods ain't any kind of light.
     
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    I brought home the Longacre scales from my old work one weekend, and weighed my 460, minus power steering pump, and it was 625 lbs (granted, it had an aluminum intake & water pump and headers instead of heavy cast iron exhaust manifolds). My C6 was 180 lbs, for a grand total of 795 lbs (round up to 800, for fun). Where the hell does yours get that extra 300 lbs from? Oil and coolant. I know the manifolds are heavy, but jeez.
    My Ranchero, minus interior, engine and transmission, weighed 2660 lbs. I have the slip, somewhere.
     
  5. Hillbilly

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    Didn't break it up into individual parts Sean. It was fully dressed = All brackets, steering pump, alternator, a/c compressor, carb, distributor, belts, cast iron intake and exhaust manifolds, shaker air filter assembly, 7 quarts oil. It was .030" over bore with Ross flat top pistons, some huge "H" beam rods. The C6 was a true Cobra Jet version that had heavy internal drums, wider band, and a cast iron tail casing. If I remember correct it had a 10" stall converter and no fluid when weighed. Those CJ exhaust manifolds are huge compared to stock 429/ 460 exhaust manifolds. No coolant. I dunno' where the biggest difference really was.
     
  6. The Executive

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    I could have gone full frankentarded and tried to stuff my 2,500lb 6v92ta and 6oolb 10spd roadranger in the poor thing..........
     
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    Think 460 is around 720#.I have a pair of new lincoln springs you can have XO,if current set up doesnt work out.
    Interesting thread,maybe mods can move to stable?
     
  8. The Executive

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    Well now if your talking to me about springs, That may be a thing, I'll have to drop by a company here in town called Rocky Mountain Spring and see what they don't say on price of a set ment for this kind of weight. Everyone knows the saying.......do it once, do it right -or- the 6P's Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
     
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    Put them in my 73 with cleveland motor.Sat on upper bump stops,never settled.Ended up putting stock springs back in.These are free,plus ride from Nev.Do it more than once,you become proficient!
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    mmmmm.....I kind of wish that I had kept my 74' I love round head lights better than the double stack squares, though the side by side squares aren't too bad either.
     
  11. handy_andy_cv64

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    That's what I have planned is a Cougar front clip swap. Or, if you still want round headlights, a T-bird clip swap.
     
  12. The Executive

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    I've thought the same, though I've been tossing around the idea of a mercury Marquis or lincoln swap as well. I will definitely know more of what I want to do cosmetically later. For right now the focus is to get everything plumed up so it'll be more than the obligatory......."hey look I put it in, now what"
     
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    Waiting for someone to try stuffing a 3208 turbo V8 Cat off into a car. You would have to chop a section out of the middle of a Marquis or Town Car nose, too wide. MK IV might be close. Ever looked at a two round headlight Torino Elite nose ?
     
  14. The Executive

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    Hey! Don't go tempting me now because I do possess both the 3208T and the 8.2L detroit turbo diesel.
    Yes I actually have though getting one for a half way decent price is a little tricky.
     
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    Was the orange bucket a factory option for that year? I don't think it will fit on my '64. ;)

    Joseph
     
  16. handy_andy_cv64

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    So I'm talking to Kyle, and he says that your drop in is really solid; he made a suggestion of sourcing front coil springs from an F250 light duty (7200# GVWR) and cut them down so it has the correct ride height and the weight carrying capacity.
     
  17. The Executive

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    Sounds like a pretty good idea to me, which decade are we talking here? Because Ford likes to seemingly change things every 5 seconds, though I have the feeling 68-79 f250 ranger -or- 1ton camper special 2wd. I've had a gorgeous 68' 250 and 69'factory camper special 1ton dually.
     
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    Ha, when I was a kid, we had a '69 F350 crew cab camper special with a deluxe Kit camper (I'm the younges of five kids). It only had a 19-gallon tank! Which meant it passed everything except gas stations....

    The rigs I'm referring to are the '80-'96 3/4 ton LD ones in 2WD.
     
  19. The Executive

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    Mine had the same size tank too! Which I had noted as pretty small for the rigs size/weight. Mine had a nice 4spd standard and factory working air conditioning + radio!
    I wonder if the e350 van springs would work, they are same as the trucks just in a different platform, 2wd that is.
     
  20. handy_andy_cv64

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    I'd think so.

    As far as the 19 gallon tank and the 390-6V/4-speed, Dad said it got 4 MPG. Bombing down the new interstates at 70 MPH? 4 MPG. Tooling around town? 4 MPG. Climbing a steep hill? 4 MPG. Rolling downhill, barely in control? 4 MPG.
     

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