Perplexed on V8 upgrade

Discussion in 'Ranchero Tech Help' started by Gary Clark, Jun 19, 2020.

  1. handy_andy_cv64

    handy_andy_cv64 In Maximum Overdrive SILVER MEMBER

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    I still think it needs to settle; all new springs have a bit of settling. When I put the Windsor and C4 in Babe, it didn't lift the front end much, if at all. You'd think dropping a couple hundred pounds (part of the A/C isn't in the car right now, and it was a York with cast iron brackets) would've lifted it at least half an inch, but I measured before and after, and it basically didn't lift. But it is possible that the wrong springs were sold to him, I mean, when has that not ever happened to any of us?
     
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  2. T16592

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    Gary, so if my brain still still works, 6 years x 52 weeks per year = Wow that's a lot of beer HAHA. glad to hear you had fun!
     
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  3. LSChero

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    What springs did you buy Gary.Moog 8088/8090.Dont heat springs,cut off quarter round at a time.New springs will settle 1/2-3/4 inch over time.
     
  4. PonyExpressRider

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    On my 69, there is a difference between the manual steering idler arm, and center link.... and same power steering parts. No mixing and matching. My manual shows a pretty similar system for the '65.

    When you took the steering apart, did you happen to measure the length of the tie rods? If so, how close are you to that measurement now?
     
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  5. Gary Clark

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    Unfortunately, I didn't measure anything, and it was all different anyway. The steering is in with a little modification.
     

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  6. beerbelly

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    That shouldn't be necessary- something's wrong.
     
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  7. Huevos

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    Didn't the cars with a 6 cylinder have a completely different front end? including steering box? maybe its just the '63 I'm thinking about.
     
  8. T16592

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    But its a nice cut off job.
     
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  9. Gary Clark

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  10. beerbelly

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    Good luck, and report back after you have it on the road.
     
  11. Gary Clark

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    The height isn't so much of a problem, I could cut the springs. My problem is there is no give.
     
  12. RancheroRandy

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    Eat more and add a little "ballast" :D Sorry, couldn't help myself...IF it's just the spring rate then go back to your 6 cyl ones...unfortunately it's trial and error (like I'm having right now replacing/changing to the correct power valve on my brand new FST carburetor!!!) :mad:
     
  13. pmrphil

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    And the spring rate will not change with cutting them - the ride will be harsh as all get out. Sorry, I don't see any other realistic way to fix this besides changing the springs out for ones with the correct rate/height.
     
  14. Huevos

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    Dont cut the springs, Put the old ones back in and see how it looks.. Or get some from a wrecker.
     
  15. Gary Clark

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    I have decided to see how it looks with the tranny and everything else installed. I had to put leaf spring helpers on the back, it was way low. Thanks again for all the replies!
     
  16. T16592

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  17. AimlessMoto

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    Woah woah woah.
    This car hasn't even rolled under it's own power yet.

    Every time I jack up the front end and put it back down it looks like a monster truck until it rolls about 10 feet. The tires, strut rods, and control arms will bind without rolling... especially if you haven't done the Shelby drop.

    That, and new springs will settle about an inch after 100-200 miles, and more over time.

    Honestly, let it be... get the trans installed, get it running, and drive it.

    It looks like you're running a lower sidewall too? 215/50 15 I'm guessing? It is adding to the "illusion" if so. Haha.
     
  18. Gary Clark

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    I'm leaving it for now. I'm using 195/70-14s.
     
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  19. AimlessMoto

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    Oh geez that's why. A lot of that gap is an optical illusion.
     
  20. Gary Clark

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    We'll see how optcial it is when it is all put together and run for a bit.
     
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