Streaming and antenna for local stations

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  1. Clark

    Clark In Maximum Overdrive

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    Ditched the expensive satellite cable service and have gone to wifi streaming. Then I bought the cheap amplified indoor HD flat panel HD digital TV antenna for local stations.

    The indoor antenna picks up 69 stations BUT I have to move it around to get one I frequently watch. Some days I must have the smart TV search out the available stations again.

    So I'm now thinking I should buy and outdoor antenna, take down the unused dish, use the dish arm to mount the antenna, connect into the existing house coaxial cable system.

    The questions here are what antenna to buy. I'm thinking a Channel Master omni-direction unit about $170 from Amazon. Then it seems I should buy an antenna amplifier as well.

    Anyone else face this? Have experience?
     
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  3. Clark

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    Great BB and thanks.
     
  4. DJ Clinton

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    Count your blessings! In Nevada, I get no channels with an outside antenna & in Utah, I can only get a Spanish station.
     
  5. Jeff B

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    Clark. Please post your results as I would like to cut the cord as well.
     
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    I put an antenna in my garage attic and pointed it SSW towards Indy. That was 20+ years ago. The wife didn't want "an ugly" tower outside. I live in the country where cable isn't available. When the analog broadcast went away and was replaced with digital I bought a digital tuner/converter for our old TV and did nothing to the antenna. Later bought a new flat screen TV and ditched the converter. That was years ago. Still using the same antenna. I can get Indy, Dayton and sometimes Cincy stations from that old fixed antenna. Still don't have satellite or cable.

    Internet is line of site wireless from a repeater on a tall grain silo about a mile away.
     
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    Long ago before cable was available here put an antenna and rotor in the attic. worked well. Big market though, NY & Philadelphia. 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11 and 13, plus some uhf.
     
  8. Clark

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    Yes! Bought the RCA Yagi antenna posted by beerbelly. I ditched the dish, bolted the antenna to the former dish mount, attached the coaxial cable to the new antenna and, voila, it works marvelously!
     
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  9. grebaba

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    I have done antenna installs for several years and there are a few things that will decide what you need.
    How far are you from the stations that you want to watch?
    Do you have a good line of sight to the TV towers?
    How long are the cables going to be to the TV"s?
    You could get good reception if you live near the TV tower's and get out fairly cheap.
    If you are a long distance from the towers then it could get expensive.
    Greg
     
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    I have an outside antenna, a flat screen with 8 dipoles connected to the cable. (Channel Master). I used to call this a moon-bounce antenna. I get 68 channels without moving it at all. There are about 5 that I watch, more than I need, zero blockage. These days I mostly watch youtube videos (Comcast cable) -- connection feature built into my late model tv.

    I have a tv question (maybe Grebaba?, re Sony XBR tv) -- many channels advertise they broadcast "Dolby Sound", whatever that means. I have lately reinstalled the latest upgrade Android to my tv, and have gone from =nothing surround= to some very weak surround sound. Is this typical? I have excellent surround from dvd. Any info welcome.
     
  11. grebaba

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    I am not that familar with the Sony xbr tv's but you may have to go into the tv settings in the sound section and turn on the Dolby feature. Your tv may have the 5 speaker's buildt in.
    If that doesn't work then you will probally have to buy a receiver and run your hdmi cable from the tv into the receiver [hdmi out on the tv to hdmi in on the receiver] and then run another hdvi cable hdmi out to the tv's hdmi in] into the tv on the input side and turn off your buildt in speaker fuction on your tv..
    Dolby Sound is a 5 channel stereo and you will need at 5 speakers to fully use it.
    Newer Dolby+ etc can support up to 11 speakers.
    You would need two speakers on each side of the tv- one center channel speaker under or above the tv- two surround speakers to go behind and on each side of you sitting position and for good base a good sub woffer.
    If you need futher info just ask.
    Greg
     
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    Right ... I have Pioneer 7-channel receiver using 5 speakers (one with a microphone input to equalize speakers.) The tv's output sound to local speakers is disabled. Connected to the receiver with an optical cable. I have a 15" sub. I have excellent surround sound when playing dvd/blu-ray inputs. I've been doing hifi sound since the term was invented. As nearly as I can tell (various tv setups) I =should= be getting surround from almost all tv signals.

    What I need to know is: when a tv station says they are broadcasting "Dolby Sound" -- is that actually surround sound? Or maybe just some way of processing ordinary 2-channel stuff through a Dolby box of some sort? I have asked a couple of the local stations what they are doing ... and got various answers, enough to make me think they didn't know what they were doing to network signals.

    There must be someone here who knows about tv broadcasts -- what are you doing about sound?
     
  13. grebaba

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    What they are doing is broadcasting stereo sound with Dolby processing. In other words it is just stereo with a center channel added to the audio stream. They take the audio from the stereo stream and process a addition center channel with the base signal.
    You will not get true surround sound from an over the air tv signal even running though your receiver.
    You should get true surround sound from add on's like Roku- and the other streaming services providing they broadcast in that format.
    Just enhanced stereo with digital processing for a tv with buildt in 3 speaker system. Not true Dolby processing.
    I have 2 sound systems-one for tv's and DVR's etc and one for stereo sound.
    It would be possible to hook up your system to use the rear speakers while watching OTA tv.
    What you would do is run additional speaker wires from the 2 speaker outs on your receiver you are not using. You would wire the added wires to your existing rear speakers along with the existing wires.
    This would not give you true Dolby surround but you would have your rear speakers on at the same time your fronts are running.
    I am not sure about the pioneer receiver but I believe this would work without haveing to turn off and on the 2 extra rear channels.
    Hope I explained this as I am not that good explaining what I am trying to say at times.
    Greg
     
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    Thanks for giving it a shot.

    Take care,
    bb
     
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    If you ever want to know more, lookup the Antenna Man on youtube.
     

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