Vapers Beware

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  1. ForistellFord

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    Two part answer here. It gets to the street the same way weed and meth gets there. Street dealers are brewing this crap up and selling it. No legal vape shops sell THC oil for vaping because everyone who knows anything about vaping knows you do not vape oil. Period. That is dangerous and stupid. Some gas stations have been duped into selling it because they don't know what they are selling most times. Vape juices are vegetable glycerin, propylene glycerine, and flavorings. Most people add nicotine but it is not required for vaping. And as far as pain medication, that would be CBD, not the THC. THC is the stuff that gets you high; CBD is the pain relieving element. I do not condone or use either, but that's irrelevant.

    The tobacco and pharmaceutical industries have been trying for years to eliminate vaping for a very $imple rea$on. It is a viable, safe alternative to smoking and that is terribly frightening to their pocketbooks, as well as a major danger to the tax revenue stream enjoyed by the government. So yeah, there is a lot of mis-information and flat out lies about vaping constantly propagated by those interests. The recent deaths and hospitalizations are from the street oil pods, not from the correct vaping methods, but you rarely hear them separated because they want it killed, so it is all tossed in as All Vaping is Evil, rather than just vaping illegal THC oil pods.
     
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    You wouldn't happen to be doing publicity adds for the vape industry would you.
     
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    No, just trying to get some real information out there.
     
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    My wife is stuck in that boat. She takes oxy for severe pain. I went to pick up her prescription on Saturday, only to find out the &^%$#@ corporate heads at Sav-On/Osco decided that they now want a doctor's diagnosis AND treatment plan on file before the pharmacist can dispense the medication! She suffered through Sunday, and probably will be worse off today, because the doctor's office is closed on the weekend. So, the people who really need the stuff are suffering, because some yo-yo on a yacht decides that their corporate well-being is more important than their patient's pain management. As you can tell, I'm a bit peeved.

    Joseph
     
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    That and weak lungs.
     
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    I think some old coot from SF stole FF's log in. :D
     
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    Ah, he's surely as against it as you are. Why would he care now that he can bum a cop's lighter to spark his fatty?

    I don't care if you are for it or against it. I just care that you take the time to properly educate yourself, which includes understanding why the government and the lobbies are so against it. Truth is power.
     
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    Oil vapors burning are plumb nasty. You wouldn't stand over a pan of burning motor oil and huff that funky mess the same as burning oil in a kitchen fire. You might get a temporary buzz from burning cannabis oil but your lungs will pay for it dearly just like if you huffed any other burning oil vapors. I thought the Tide Pods were the pinnacle of ignorance, I was proven wrong yet again.
    Hang in there FF, truth always wins.
     
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    Actually I think eating Tide pods does trump this. Purposely eating laundry detergent? Good grief.

    Truth doesn't always win; in fact never does when you are dealing with government revenue streams. Or corporate revenue streams. Think about it... Cigarettes kill thousands of people a day. They've been known killers for decades. Morally, in the name of public health, why are they not banned? Why are $tore$ $till $elling them if they are $o dangerou$? Illegal THC oil pods kill 8 people, and safe, legal vaping has killed no one. So, let's ban vaping. Sounds legit to me.
     
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    Just to clear the vapors in here -- what is a "THC oil pod", whatever it is that you are talking about? I've never heard of such here, nobody ever offered to sell me one. But there are stores that sell CA legal THC in some sort of vapor product (example: www.goe.menu in Hayward CA, closest store to my house.) In particular, please clear up the "oil" content -- surely not derived from petroleum.

    It's hard to see how home vaping can be stopped or made illegal. I've used a rig called "HappyVappy" for some years now (vaping dried bud material), no bad symptoms at all.
     
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    Non-licensed manufacturers (read: Billy and Leon) are adding extra 'ingredients' to vape cartridges, including but not limited to vitamin E (which converts to an oil when vaporized/atomized and settles into the lungs). These are not store-bought cartridges but rather street access, same as a bag of weed or some meth from the corner dealer. I don't know why anyone would vape that stuff, but whatever pops your kernels.
     
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    I used to smoke, but now can't stand the smell and think smokers are losers. My sister doesn't drink, and thinks drinkers are losers. Takes a village.
     
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    Indeed, an epidemic. That article I linked does a pretty good job explaining where these poison packs are coming from.

    Almost every single case of this has the user confirmed to have used these street pods. And the ones who didn't confirm that, are lying. Seriously.
     
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    Darwin cleaning up the gene pool
     
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    Point really is, vaping itself is not dangerous, and the push by the government to ban vaping when they KNOW (the CDC is the gubment too, you know) vaping itself is not the cause of the health problems speaks to the money play over public safety. Yet again. Vaping has been proven to be a successful smoking cessation method, even the EU acknowledges that too, yet the money from tobacco revenue trumps public health.
     

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