selling price of rebuilt 351c

Hal · 08-17-2010, 09:57 PM

Hi:
Does anyone have an idea of what a rebuilt 351c 4V long block without carb should sell for?
Thanks, Hal

Mooretorinos · 08-17-2010, 10:18 PM

It cost around $2500. for a complete rebuild including heads.

ribald1 · 08-18-2010, 06:37 AM

There are a lot of different jobs that are called a "rebuild".
From just a ring and bearing replacement and valve job on the bottom end, up to the sky is the limit.

72GTVA · 08-18-2010, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hal

Hi:
Does anyone have an idea of what a rebuilt 351c 4V long block without carb should sell for?
Thanks, Hal

That is sort of a nebulous question - and requires a little more information to give you a really good answer. Is this an engine offered by a production rebuilding engine company or is it a custom machine shop effort? Production shops produce rebuilt engines largely to a common industry practice set of standards which are largely equivalent to a simple bore/ring/main & rod bearing/crank grind/valve job and may or may not include new camshaft. If a smaller shop has taken on the task of rebuilding it there is likely more attention to fine details and might including working to a tighter set of tolerances and better precision in the fit and assembly of parts.

Using some local shop options from here, a true 351 Q or R code with 4 bolt mains and the correct or nearly correct cam, with just the bare overhaul it would be in the neighborhood of $1,500 to $2,500 Rancherobuck$$$$ for a long block. The assumption here is they had a complete core engine and rebuilt it to common industry standards and practices using the typical vendor prices on common replacement parts. This would not include "better" pistons and such.

If this was a rebuild that used big name components such as Keith Black or (name that supplier) pistons, internally and externally balanced, blueprinted, and performed precision measure/fitting of all replacement components, and added features such as dyno tuning and break-in you are looking at something in the neighborhood of $5,000 to $10,000 Rancherobuck$$$$$ or more.

Let us know the "pedigree" of the build if you can - who built it, what did they use in major components and we can then probably come up with a better estimate.

Gremium7 · 08-18-2010, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hal

Hi:
Does anyone have an idea of what a rebuilt 351c 4V long block without carb should sell for?
Thanks, Hal

Hello Hal
i have buy a Marschal rebuild long Block in Ca. by http://www.car-stuff.com/
for me it was ceep !!

Hal · 08-18-2010, 07:54 PM

Hi:
Thanks for the input. From what I can gather, the rebuild was done with "standard" parts. The block was bored .030 over (first overbore from stock) and the crank was ground .010 under. A new cam (RV ? don't know the lift or duration characteristics) was installed and of course all new lifters, bearings, timing chain, etc (the usual stuff). The heads were redone with new valves, springs, guides, etc. The stock intake manifold was replaced with an Offenhauser hi-rise (compatible with a 4V). That's all the information I was able to get. Does it help?
Thanks again, Hal

72GTVA · 08-18-2010, 09:29 PM

Yes - that helps. Assuming a production rebuilding facility and including the "core" cost of a 4V engine (hopefully they didn't swap blocks on you) would estimate its worth at $1,500 and $2,000. That is about the cost if you were to rebuild it yourself having a machine shop do only those things that you could not do yourself due to tooling and such.

burninbush · 08-19-2010, 01:21 AM

Yes - that helps. Assuming a production rebuilding facility and including the "core" cost of a 4V engine (hopefully they didn't swap blocks on you) would estimate its worth at $1,500 and $2,000.

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Just for info, is there some reason a Cleveland rebuild labor should cost a lot more than other Ford v8 motors?

I think I paid $695 for the 302 long-block in my car, from a company near Los Angeles. Everything that moves in it was either new or rebuilt, brass core plugs, new oil pump, gasket set, etc., and it came with a warranty. Three years later it still seems perfect. [United Engine in Compton, CA]

72GTVA · 08-19-2010, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by burninbush

Just for info, is there some reason a Cleveland rebuild labor should cost a lot more than other Ford v8 motors?

Just using the general price the local rebuild company sells the Cleveland rebuilds. Suspect it is due to the dwindling supply of available engine cores and the cost of the significant parts that are unique to the Cleveland. How long have 302/5.0 engines been in production in comparison to the 4 years or so that Cleveland engines were produced?

Denny · 08-19-2010, 08:54 AM

If you look at the link that Gremium posted above, you could get a 429 longblock for under $1500. They also showed two or three versions of a 351 for about $1200 but I'm not sure if it specified Cleveland or Windsor. Might be something to think about.

I would only consider paying more than $1000 for a "rebuilt" engine if it had a warranty that I was sure would be honored, or I at least knew (and trusted) the person who rebuilt it. I've heard of too many horror stories about people who bought a pig in a poke.

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08-17-2010, 10:18 PM	#2
Mooretorinos Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sacramento Posts: 187	It cost around $2500. for a complete rebuild including heads.

08-18-2010, 07:54 PM	#6
Hal Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 50	Hi: Thanks for the input. From what I can gather, the rebuild was done with "standard" parts. The block was bored .030 over (first overbore from stock) and the crank was ground .010 under. A new cam (RV ? don't know the lift or duration characteristics) was installed and of course all new lifters, bearings, timing chain, etc (the usual stuff). The heads were redone with new valves, springs, guides, etc. The stock intake manifold was replaced with an Offenhauser hi-rise (compatible with a 4V). That's all the information I was able to get. Does it help? Thanks again, Hal

08-18-2010, 09:29 PM	#7
72GTVA Administrator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southeastern USA (Sometimes) Posts: 5,811	Yes - that helps. Assuming a production rebuilding facility and including the "core" cost of a 4V engine (hopefully they didn't swap blocks on you) would estimate its worth at $1,500 and $2,000. That is about the cost if you were to rebuild it yourself having a machine shop do only those things that you could not do yourself due to tooling and such.

08-19-2010, 01:21 AM	#8
burninbush Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: near SF Posts: 6,400	Yes - that helps. Assuming a production rebuilding facility and including the "core" cost of a 4V engine (hopefully they didn't swap blocks on you) would estimate its worth at $1,500 and $2,000. ++++++++++++++ Just for info, is there some reason a Cleveland rebuild labor should cost a lot more than other Ford v8 motors? I think I paid $695 for the 302 long-block in my car, from a company near Los Angeles. Everything that moves in it was either new or rebuilt, brass core plugs, new oil pump, gasket set, etc., and it came with a warranty. Three years later it still seems perfect. [United Engine in Compton, CA]

08-19-2010, 08:54 AM	#10
Denny SITE SUPPORTER- SILVER Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: near Jackson, TN Posts: 6,952	If you look at the link that Gremium posted above, you could get a 429 longblock for under $1500. They also showed two or three versions of a 351 for about $1200 but I'm not sure if it specified Cleveland or Windsor. Might be something to think about. I would only consider paying more than $1000 for a "rebuilt" engine if it had a warranty that I was sure would be honored, or I at least knew (and trusted) the person who rebuilt it. I've heard of too many horror stories about people who bought a pig in a poke.