What's the oil pump problem? You just need a front-sump pickup, as I had to do to make the 351W work in mine. The 429 pump and pickup, I would think that is all you'd need.
The 400 oil pump has a bit of a different angle so it won't bolt. The 400 oil pickup is threaded and the 460 pickup bolts on and it brazed to the plate. I am going to drill out the plate or make a new one and thread the 400 pickup into the plate that bolts to the 460 oil pump
There are three different styles of oil pumps for a 460, with three different ways that the pickup screen mounts. Press, bolted at an angle, and bolted straight down. Find someone with a melling book, they have actual pictures of the pumps and pickups. Wouldn't it be nice if it turns out that simple?
Ya, I did some research and found that. I'm going from the small block screw in on the side to the big block bolt on the side
Does anyone know exactly what engine mounts i need to put a 460 in a 73 ranchero? im having quite a bit of trouble with it
Okay so this is just a little update. I purchased motor mounts for the 460 in the ranchero. The engine is in the car, bolted to the trans. I'm working on wiring now, I have all the brakes done with new calipers. The intake fits under the hood without the throttle body. When I put that on, it hits the center crossmember that is about a foot and a half wide. Does anyone have an idea to solve this? Is it okay to cut that crossmember and should I just get a small hood scoop? Thanks for your input
The way the EFI 460 intake was built, a smaller vehicle would have it sticking up through the hood. Is there a trashed hood you can get your hands on, in order to do the measuring and cutting, test fitting, etc.? I would do that to see if it's feasible, to see what you'd need to complete the job, and whether you'd have to petition the USPS for a Zip+4 for the ugly-@$$ed mailbox on your hood.
Just a thought -- it wouldn't take much of an adapter to put a conventional throttle body on that manifold.
Ah yes, Grasshopper ! BB has hit upon a capitol idea. You already have the injectors in place, very little is needed to finish that idea. Butterflies and a throttle position sensor with some sort of idle air by-pass built into a chunk the size of an average four hole carburetor = You're in business ! Interesting brain teaser, isn't it ?
Hillbilly, edelbrock and holley, among others make and sell such a thing. 4150 manifolds are converted to FI everyday.
You would need to make some kind of adapter, the bolt pattern on the manifold is not even close to the standard Holley pattern. Shouldn't be a big deal, though - start with a 1" spacer and a gasket for the manifold and see where you get.
Ribald, I'm very familiar with the Holley and MSD systems, got both. They are the throttle body versions with four large injectors. I like that 460 lower intake with the injectors down in the intake runners, just need to cobble up a low profile upper to clear our original hoods. I understand the why of the long runners up to the butterflys but think such distance isn't needed to speed up the incoming air velocity for low end torque in our applications. Truck yes, car, not so much. Still thinking about this issue but haven't gone into fabrication mode yet. Thoughts ?
Hillbilly, As far as I know, MSD only makes that type, but Holley and Edelbrock were making the plain 4150 style throttle bodies before the ones with the built in injectors came out. They were how fuel injection systems were built before the kits came out. As to the long runners many 385s have been built with throttle bodies hanging off each side, side draft style along with split intakes running two 4bbl throttle bodies. Putting the injectors in the throttle body never really got popular in racing.
That's because injector placement is really important. Look at an EFI tunnel ram, and you'll find that the runner bungs are up the runners a few inches as compared to a standard dual-plane, where the bungs are at the ends of the runners, pointing down to the valves. Blue Oval 3.8L cylinder heads are the exception to that, that I've seen. But one thing he needs to remember is that unless he wants to redesign/rebuild the throttle quadrant, his butterflies will need to be vertical. I thought about the possibility of using two 4.6/5.4L throttle bodies with 90* elbows, bolted to a custom adapter and using a common link to actuate both butterflies? The other idea would be to measure how much the factory throttle body/plenum assembly sticks above the hood, and then cut out that wide a chunk fom the plenum runners and heliarc weld the remaining pieces together?
